In this episode of We Chat Divorce we are thrilled to welcome Wendy Sterling.

Wendy is a Divorce Recovery Specialist, certified ThetaHealing Practitioner, podcaster, writer, author, and speaker who founded of The Divorce Rehab™. Wendy helps divorced women recover from their divorce by finding their true identity and voice by ending their pity party, mourning the loss of their marriage, to create a new and better life they design. After her own unexpected divorce and finding the world of coaching, she realized she could combine her 20 years of experience in Corporate America as a leader with this new coaching methodology and make a profound impact in the world.  She helps women see their divorce as a gift, it happens FOR them not TO them.

Let’s Chat -

  • Discovering Your Identity
  • Gain Self Esteem to Move Forward After Divorce
  • Celebrate Those “Little” Victories th
  • POWER in the PAUSE - Divorce Is Not an Emergency
  • Where Can You Find Resources?
  • Is Divorce Recovery Possible?

Wendy Sterling is hosting a fantastic LIVE EVENT with an all-star
expert guest line up! The LIVE SHOW called Divorce & Narcissism: How to Communicate,
Set Boundaries and Get What You NEED from a Narcissist
airs Tuesday, September 29th!


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In this episode of We Chat Divorce we are excited to welcome Sheila Tucker, MA, LAMFT.

Sheila is a licensed associate marriage and family therapist and founder of Heart Mind & Soul Counseling in Hilton Head Island, South Carolina. Sheila helps couples identify their unhelpful relationship patterns and create new ways of understanding themselves and one another. She also works with individuals who feel held down and held back by anxiety.

Sheila joins Catherine and Karen to talk about “the stories we tell ourselves” and offers a treasure house of information for couples that have gone through divorce, going through divorce, or thinking about divorce.

Let’s Chat -

  • Defining “the stories we tell ourselves” and what that entails
  • Co Parenting communication
  • Don’t be embarrassed! Amending your relationship with money
  • YOU do deserve to be HAPPY despite divorce
  • Change your story to Facts vs Fiction

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In this episode of We Chat Divorce we welcome Kate Anthony!

Kate is the host of the critically acclaimed and New York Times recommended podcast The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast and the creator of the groundbreaking online coaching program, “Should I Stay or Should I Go?”, which helps women make the most difficult decision of their lives using coaching tools, relationship education, geeky neuroscience, community support, and deep self-work. 

Let’s chat about…

  • Kate’s Online Coaching Program: Should you stay or should you go?
  • Unpacking the cultural influence on marriage
  • Fairytale expectations and Emotional Needs
  • Making EMOTIONAL and FINANCIAL decisions not just for ourselves, but for our children
  • Healing your resentment

We hope you enjoy listening to this month’s episode of We Chat Divorce.

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On this episode, we are honored to welcome Kelly Galardi. Kelly is a CPA that provides tax advisory services for small businesses and individuals. She specializes in working with clients who are separating or divorcing.

Let’s chat about… yes, TAXES.

There is a lot to deal with during a divorce. Add to the list more complicated paperwork during tax filing time…ugh!

  • Do I file separately or jointly while I am going through a divorce?
  • Benefits to filing as head of household.
  • Electronically Filing joint tax returns, without both spouses having signed off!? OH MY! What you will need is a 8879 form annually.
  • Where do I go to find the status of my stimulus payment? Imagine a couple who filed taxes jointly in 2018, and their refund was direct deposited into their joint bank account. But they divorced in 2019, and they no longer share the bank account…

We hope you enjoy listening to this month’s episode of We Chat Divorce.

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In this episode, we are Frankly Speaking with the co-authors of Our Happy Divorce, Nikki and Ben.  

Nikki knows how being supported by a strong, loving family can influence the way a person navigates life, love, marriage, and motherhood. Having grown up as a member of the iconic San Francisco 49ers football family, she was thrown into the limelight at a young age. The values her family instilled in her have helped shape who she is today, and she continues to live by them.coparents

Ben intimately understands the detriment divorce can cause in the lives of children. The example of his parents’ divorce instilled in him a deep commitment "to do" better by his own kids. Ben is an investor, board member, philanthropist, golfer, and sports enthusiast. But above all, he is a dedicated father and family man who understands the importance of putting his ego aside and his children first.


Nikki and Ben define their own personal story with us and discuss what happy looks like today. Inspired by their son, they developed ways to co-parent, step-parent with an emphasis on putting the children first. As they say, “If we can do it, anyone can do it”.

As Catherine says, "DIVORCE does not mess your kids up, it is how both parents BEHAVE before, during, and after divorce that can mess your children up."

There is a different way to get Divorced. Let’s talk about it…

  • Getting to the “Happy” … We chat about cleaning up the wreckage of the past and forgiveness.
  • How can we stop pointing the finger at our spouse and get honest with ourselves?
  • Do not fool yourself, your children know what is going on.
  • Open discussions about financial settlements and joint custody.
  • Using the Divorce Process to redefine what your life, your finances, and relationship will be like post-divorce.
  • Co-Parenting and Step-parenting survival tips during the pandemic.

Want to learn more about Our Happy Divorce? Visit their website at

Whether you are thinking of divorce/separation, are in the midst of a divorce, or embarking on your new life after divorce, this episode has something to help you.

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In this episode of the We Chat Divorce podcast, we welcome back Colleen Kowal, LPC of Hilton Head Island Counseling. Colleen is a relationship specialist who believes that what sits at the heart of most problems is a broken relationship. Her private practice specializes in relationship therapy, working with couples to  save and end marriages in a way that doesn’t destroy the family’s children and brings insight. She joins us to talk about The Art of Repairing.

Repair? I’m getting divorced. There is nothing to repair.

There is an art to repairing what is broken, even after divorce with no intention of getting back together. What does require repair is the new post-divorce relationship, especially when the former spouses will be co-parenting.

  • When you get divorced it doesn’t mean the relationship is over. It is a new beginning. There will still be birthday parties, graduations, weddings, where the family unit will gather.
  • Sometimes a repair isn’t possible if either person isn’t capable or ready.
  • If only one parent is ready to repair, be the best example possible.
  • Consider what behavior you practiced in this relationship – not speaking up, not setting boundaries – that you can begin practicing in the post-divorce relationship and be aware of so that you don’t carry it into your next relationship.

Whether you are thinking of divorce, are in the midst of divorce, or are embarking on your new life after divorce, this episode has something to help you.

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In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Midlife Courage Coach Sheree Clark. She shares about moments where she had to choose courage and how you can do it, too.

You’ll have another opportunity to learn from Sheree Clark and many other experts (including us!) through an online event called “It’s YOUR Time: Turning the Midlife Crisis into Your Midlife awakening.” Sheree is interviewing all sorts of healthy living experts throughout the month of May. To access this free resource, click here. Our episode airs May 21st. To learn more, visit

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In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by attorney Jessica VanderKam to discuss the importance of being proactive in the divorce process and owning your own destiny. Jessica VanderKam is a partner with the firm Stuckert & Yates, which is based in Newtown, Pennsylvania. She is also a judicial candidate in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

Our court system is overburdened. But you can make the most of your time in the courtroom by being as prepared as possible and by managing expectations. Knowledge and a plan will go a long way in helping you own your divorce destiny. That’s also where we come in. Have questions or a topic you’d like us to cover? Contact us at

What is it like to work with us?

In this episode of the We Chat Divorce podcast, one of our clients, Eileen, joins us to describe her experience. She has gone through all three phases of our proprietary program and is now enjoying a life of clarity and confidence.

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In this episode of the We Chat Divorce podcast, we’re joined by Charissa Liller, an attorney based in Doylestown, Pennsylvania practicing Family Law with the firm Curtin & Heefner. She began her career as a prosecutor and has been practicing law in Bucks County for over 20 years, with over 15 of those years focused on Family Law. Charissa is also running for Judge in Bucks County. She is seeking to bring experience, empathy, and consistency -- qualities she brings to her family law practice – to the bench in support of families experiencing divorce.

Today she joins us for a conversation about guidelines and best practices related to Spousal Support, APL (Alimony Pendente Lite), and Child Support. Highlights include:

Support: an Overview

  • You do not have to be married to file for child support, as long as parents are living in separate households. If the parents are living within the same household, the court requires proof of a need to distinguish financial separation (bills aren’t being paid, utilities being turned off, groceries, certain expenses for the child)
  • If you are married, you can file for spousal support as long as you’re residing in physically separate residences.
  • Once you have filed for divorce, spousal support is then called APL.

Spousal Support vs. APL

  • APL is only when a divorce complaint is filed
  • With spousal support there’s an entitlement defense; the payor can claim claimant spouse is cheating, but the court requires proof. The remedy is to file a divorce claim, then you can file for APL.

Child Support Orders – What to Know

  • Extracurricular activities are not addressed in support orders. You can add provisions to the child support order providing both parental parties are agreeable to doing so and to the terms.
  • Medical expenses are always addressed. However, psychological and psychiatric expenses are not included with medical, so that language must be included as a provision in the order to ensure that expense is covered as a medical expense.
  • Support orders are always modifiable.

Final Tips:

  • Work with a CDFA to be clear on what your financial picture is and what it will be.
  • Don’t file support modifications on your own. Always consult with an attorney. You don’t know what you don’t know is key in divorce.

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